Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Fancoil Units (HVAC) Replacement


FANCOIL UNITS (HVAC) REPLACEMENT

Background

Every ECA owner is responsible for replacing the heating and cooling units (HVAC) within their apartments.

The original units are still in most of the Elizabeth condo apartments and have outlived their life expectancy.

Here are some links that discuss HVAC life expectancy which seems to be 15 years, though with luck and proper maintenance most last much longer than 15 years. Our general manager has said our old McQuay units had a life expectancy of 30 years but now these units are 40 years old.



Old HVAC systems can fail without the owners realizing it. The individual fancoil (HVAC system) may continue to provide modest amounts of heat or a/c even when your thermostat says the system is off. This happens since the heated or chilled water from the building's central plant is still circulating through the "coil" of the individual HVAC devices in your condominium. The valves controlling the flow of heated or chilled water must be in working condidtion or the different temperature waters will mix and the fancoil unit will not perform as designed. Manual manipulation of the  valves, by the in-house staff, has been the past method of extending the life and performance of the fancoil units. But this procedure defeats the purpose of the thermostat and is usually inconvenient to the occupants of the apartment.


Issues with HVAC Systems

HVAC systems can be noisy depending on how much insulation surround the unit and how the unit operates in general. There is the sound of the fan blowing, and the sound when the unit turns on.

HVAC may be free standing or installed inside a wall. Vertical units are large and are typically installed inside a wall while the freestanding horizontal units are hopefully installed in an out of the way spot against a wall. Installation of the vertical units requires opening up a wall and usually removing an old unit. This is the time to ensure that the pipes are properly insulated and that all is well with your unit hooking into the overall heating-cooling system that operates throughout the condo building.

The Daikin-McQuay units that have been recommended by our ECA Boards with assistance from our Legum & Norman managers have been vetted as quality units. Most HVAC systems are made by one manufacturer and then customized for various vendors. Quality Air Services, the company coordinating our HVAC replacements, does not promote one vendor over another.

Two other options that have come to the attention of some ECA members are units by a vendor known as International. They are offering a comparable unit to the Daikin-McQuay unit and something called a cartridge unit. Both of these units have a larger metallic facing than the Daikin-McQuay unit, particularly in regard to the height of the air return grill.

The cartridge unit uses the old casing that exists with the old HVAC.  Using the old casing can cause problems in the future because there is no opportunity to examine the pipes that hook into the overall heating-cooling system. Also there is no opportunity to examine the casing itself to see if it is corroded from past leaks. While the installation costs may be lower for cartridge units, future problems with the pipes behind the casing would obviate any saving realized. There is a free-standing but unhooked up cartridge unit in the ECA management office.

The International unit most like the Daikin-McQuay unit could possibly be quieter than the Daikin-McQuay unit but it is likely to cost more since quantity pricing has not been organized for this option. The Quality Air Representative says that this International unit is comparable in quality to the Daikin-McQuay unit. Anyone interested in this option should contact Quality Air to learn how to see and experience this unit.


About the Unit Installed in the Management Office

The Daikin-McQuay  unit is installed in the wall in the ECA Management Office. When this unit was originally installed the front cover was not properly secured and this caused more noise in the operation of the HVAC unit. That problem was fixed.


Things to Know about Group Purchase Versus Single Owner Purchase

Purchasing new HVAC units is up to each unit owner. Unit owners are not required to purchase replacement HVACs. The decision to do so is entirely up to the owners.

Group purchase brings down the price of the selected units. The target number of HVAC units that need to be purchased is 250 (HVAC) units to achieve the price break. (Note that some apartments have more than one fancoil units.) The Quality Air representative feels certain that this goal will be met based on the current level of contracts received (7/16/14).

Installation requires that an entire vertical tier must be interrupted for heat and cooling service during installation of HVAC units. This means that single purchases that are installed at a time not compatible with installation of the group buy of  Daikin-McQuay  units will cause additional inconvenience to other residents of the tier.

The target date for signing up for group purchase (July 31) is coordinated with an October-November installation schedule to minimize the inconvenience of heat-cooling shutdowns as well as give the manufacturer ample time to produce the units. (Installation of HVACs during the coldest or hottest months may be a hardship depending on the weather.)

Financing

Credit cards may be used for the initial deposit and subsequent completion of payment. However, you must contact the Quality Air Service representative (Vicky Liderman) at 301-495-9500 x100 to request and arrange credit card payment. Your card will not be charged until Quality Air has received your signed and dated contract, which shows how much the units for your apartment will cost. Send your signed and dated contract to:

Quality Air Services
12288-I Wilkins Avenue
Rockville, MD 20852

The deadline is July 31, 2014.





Sunday, July 13, 2014

Notes from June 2014 Board Meeting

Here are a few notes taken by an attending neighbor from the June ECA Board meeting.

Board present: Steven Schattman, Patricia Batey, Sharon Bobb, Jim Jones (on conference call), Dr. Alfred Muller, John McNerney, Jim Vuko

Others Present: ECA General Manager Terrence Lee, Legum & Norman Regional Manager James Santos

Call 2 order -  Steve Schattman

Review/discussion of May 20, 2014, meeting minutes-no recorder was present at prior meeting; resident comments missing; approval tabled.

Presidents Report-Steve Schattman
            New shredder available in Residents' Business Office.
            New Committee:  Maintenance Repair & Replacement Committee - David Robinson, Chair Social Committee -  New chair needed.

Committee Reports
            Maintenance Repair & Replacement Committee - David Robinson, Chair- Purpose of  committee  - to oversee ECA common areas & limited common areas:  Mendoza engineering  service; hot water pumps; heat exchangers; fire alarm system; facade repairs; expenses; volunteers needed. 
           
            Social Committee - Pat Batey - new committee chairman needed; proposed events- Trivia party; quarterly gathering for new residents; movie night; continued events: Int'l food dinner;  Halloween Party (need volunteer); wine & cheese party; Dec. winter dinner.

            Design Committee - Alex Kielty (for Peg Downey, chair) Hall renovation to begin July 2015.  Committee needs from ECA Board:  total budget plus cost break down of funds available for fire, security & electronics; completion of design & revision of Hartmann contract.  McNerny, $1.8 million for halls in 10yr plan.  Santos:  Fire alarm design is complete.  Bobb:  Surveillance communication, security design not completed.  Hall refurbishment will begin AFTER windows & balcony improvements are completed.

            Participation Committee - Jim Vuko, Chair  Volunteers needed.


 Old Business- None


New Business

           Motion to approve $150000.00 from Window Replacement contingency fund
  • to assist all residents with removing and replacing furniture & window treatments during window installation; and  
  • to reimburse for Marriot Hotel overnight for lobby, first floor and 18th floor residents required to vacate their apartments during hazardous substance abatement.
          
           Discussion:  
           ECA has contracted  Hann & Hann  removing and replacing furniture & window treatments.  ECA should require owners/residents to sign "hold harmless" statement regarding moving service

           Hourly rates for service:  $25.00/hr. furniture movers; $50/hr. carpentry

           New window frames and sills cannot be penetrated- affects windows' insulation

           Owners'/Residents' window treatments may need alteration to fit new windows.

           DIDN'T PASS


          Motion to approve $8000.00 from Window Replacement contingency fund to reimburse for Marriot Hotel overnight for lobby, first floor and 18th floor residents required to vacate their apartments during hazardous substance abatement. 


          PASSED

          Motion to approve $32000.00 from Window Replacement contingency fund to pay for 
          hazardous substance abatement.

           PASSED


If you attended the board meeting, please let me know what other points were covered.

Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Summary of ECA Board Meeting May 20, 2014

Board Present: Steven Schattman, Patricia Batey, Sharon Bobb, Jim Jones, Dr. Alfred Muller, John McNerney, Jim Vuko

Others Present: ECA General Manager Terrence Lee, Legum & Norman Regional Manager James Santos

Highlights from the May 20, 2014 meeting:

Discussion of balcony repair schedule with Q&A by Wiss Janney Elstner (Ken Kosteva).

Currently demolition phase is happening now for tiers 7-16 (mostly the back of the building except the 11 tier which has two balconies).

Once majority of balconies are complete including the painting, then window/balcony door replacement will begin. This includes the tiers within 7-16 tiers that have no balconies. Windows will be delivered close to date of installation.

Hazardous material (e.g. asbestos in popcorn ceilings) problems will be attended to for floors including lobby level, first, and eighth floors. Note that rain and humidity can interrupt balcony repair work. It takes 40-45 days for each balcony repair but it could be as much as 90 days.

Condo fee beginning July 1, 2014: The board in a 4 to 3 vote approved a 4% increase in monthly condo fees. This discussion concerned whether to increase 4% or 5%. This increase will help cushion against unforeseen expenditures. The Association will begin borrowing as early as October (but maybe later) to pay for major improvement expenses like repair of balconies and replacement of window/balcony doors. (Expected total loan draw is $2.5 million at 3.9% for a timeframe not to exceed 36 months. Expected pay back by end of 2019 fiscal year.)

Water Pump: a noise suppression collar is scheduled for installation within two weeks. This has been an ongoing noise problem since the new pump was installed late last year.

Elevator problems in East Tower: The electrical control panel probably needs to be replaced and this is one of those unbudgeted for items that impacts condo fee rise. (This issue was covered in the April 22 meeting also.)

Fan coil units: There will be a presentation at the next board meeting. Estimated average costs of in wall vertical units is $5700 and console units are priced at approximately $3200. This price depends on the number of owners participating and was based on a survey taken last year. The contract will be between the vendor and the unit owner. Humidifiers installed on or in the units are not recommended. They only last three years and they are likely to cause mold problems.

Landscaping: The ECA General Manager is working with the most recent landscaper to take advantage of credit due the ECA and to spruce up the front of the building.

Website: need a chairperson to evaluate current provider to see if improvements can be made. Please volunteer. Contact president Steve Schattman

Social Committee: need new chairperson. Please volunteer. Contact president Steve Schattman

Participation Committee: will be producing a monthly newsletter.

Exercise Room: Rules need to be followed. Be considerate, stay safe.

Wipe down equipment with sanitizing wipes (provided in the exercise rooms) after you use the equipment.

Use earphones or headsets for TVs.

Dry off from pool before entering equipment rooms.

No small children, no unsupervised children.



From April 22 meeting (which was not covered on this blog):

Electric Car Charging Station: 112 people responded to the survey. 68 people liked the idea of installing a few charging stations. This issue will be turned over to the new board.

Legum and Norman contract up for renewal

Unclaimed bike donations: action halted



Monday, April 21, 2014

Meet the Candidates


Dear Neighbor,

The next few years here are going to be hectic with window and door replacement, balcony upgrades, hallway remodeling, heavy duty mechanical changes and serious financial commitments.  That's why we must be certain our new Board of Directors has the vision and capability to give strong leadership to Management.

That said, I think it's very important for every Elizabeth owner to attend the "Meet the Candidates" event on Thursday, April 24th at 7:00pm in the West Lobby.  

It will be your best chance to evaluate the candidates and ask questions.  After all, it's your money; you should know who's spending it and how. Encourage your friends to come, too.

P.S.  Cookies and soft drinks will be provided courtesy of the Social Committee.


Friday, April 4, 2014

Issues with New Fan Coil Units

I want to bring this information from Sharon Bob to everyone's attention.
She sent this message to the ECA Board of Directions today.


There are two issues involving the new fan coil units that are of concern to many owners.  One is aesthetics, and the other is noise.

Request that the Board have the second prototype fan coil unit installed in the Management Office so that we can hear whether how noisy it is, and how efficiently it cools and heats the office.  The reasons for that are:

1.     Residents who received replacement motors for McQuay units have complained since the day they were installed about the loud noise they make.  I received such a unit about 1.5 years ago, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that they make an incredible racket!
2.     There have been serious problems with noise associated with the new pumps, a problem which was unanticipated and has taken months to address.
3.     Fan coil units are in our bedrooms.   They should be as silent as possible.
Additionally, request that the Board offer an alternate design to the prototype fan coil unit that does not involve a large metal face.  The second prototype has a metal face that is approximately 44.5 inches high, which means that we would have a metal face going more than halfway up our walls.  As an alternative, why not put the unit inside the wall, with a louvered wood door that can be painted or stained and would allow access to the unit for service?  Our current fan coil unit is inside the wall and the vent allowing access to the filter is hinged. 

I appreciate your efforts to design a suitable replacement for our current McQuay units that is technologically superior to our old 1974 units.  I recognize that this has not been an easy task.  However, the new units will be with most of us for the next 20 years (we hope) or more, and we should not rush into a decision.  Therefore, I urge you to take the necessary steps to ensure that the new units are as aesthetically pleasing as possible, and as silent as possible.


Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Summary of ECA Board Meeting March 24, 2014

Present: David Robinson, Ted Ariev, Jim Jones, McNerney, Alfred Muller, Steven Schattman, Jim Vuko

Others Present: ECA General Manager Terence Lee, ECA Assistant General Manager Wanda Powell, Senior Vice-President DC Metro Division Gregory Roby

Hallway Renovation.
Design Committee recommended that the Board proceed with Hartman Design Group.  

Fenestration Project
 The fenestration project (windows & balcony door replacement) moving slower than expected because of weather. Association advised not to engage workers in conversation but talk to management office for all questions.

ECA Staff Retirement
Calvin Allette submitted his resignation for April 9. His job will be taken care of by Clean Inc.

Problems Related to New Water Pumps
Water pump noise issue hopefully wrapped up.  Adjustments done Friday and Sunday have provided favorable results. Not sure the problem is totally resolved yet. Asked designer and installer to pay for third-party consultant work. We have backup pumps. It is a dual system where only one pump is supposed to work at a time. Cummings Wagner is responsible for the programming that was in error because all the pumps were working simultaneously.

Garage Fan & CO Detector Installation
Garage fans and CO (carbon monoxide) detector have been installed. They are running but we are waiting for inspection. Ted Ariev urges getting the inspection done pronto because of a CO incident in another condo.

Fan Coil Units 
Looked at Daikin (Daikin bought out McQuay Company, makers of ECA original fan coil units) unit favorably.

Elevator Pit & Sewage Problem
Sewage problem (leaking coupling) detected but it leaked into elevator pit. Under control now and has been cleaned and sanitized.

Elevator Problems
Elevator problem – Otis called but we had two entrapments. Control relays to elevators are outdated and require replacing. #3 West side culprit.  Over 100 relays but replacements are still the old 1986 technology. Emergency lighting didn’t work and emergency button didn’t work either.

Annual meeting is May 7 with four seats up for election.

Social Committee
Lecture on China or Korea in May or June by Jonathan Pollack.

Successful wine tasting party. Talk of doing this again.

Making A Difference Committee
Food collection Wednesday March 26 4-6 pm.

Peg Downey will conduct a class on knitting  & crocheting in party room a week from Wednesday. The committee has ample yarn supplies for use in the classes.

Renovation in the mail corridor in progress awaiting new molding.

Rentals in the Elizabeth
Restriction on rental units. Over 30% renters now. Discussion to create an amendment in time for annual meeting.  Problem is how to get enough owners to annual meeting. Need to lower voting quorum threshold first. 4620 N. Park had a hard time selling it to their Association. 

Proposed & Passed New Committee
A proposal by Jim Vuko: Participation Committee purpose to pursue long term strategies for getting people to bring folks together. E.g. hard to get 75% participation for changes to bylaws. Need a structural change. People need to be contacted on a regular basis.

Move for new committee. Passed by the Board.

Fiscal Draft Audit
Ariev said capital improvement needs revising.
Passed fiscal audit 2013 with two abstentions.

Pool Renovations
Major renovation work on pool upcoming.

Electrical Car Charging Station
Electrical car charging no movement at this time. Do a survey to find out who is interested.